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Reported by: Tricia N. Kelly, CSR #3604 PLANNING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING CITY OF GRASS VALLEY TUESDAY, JANUARY 6, 2009 PUBLIC COMMENTS 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 waiting to be loaded or being loaded, and I didn't see any idle for long periods of time while they're staging or tractor-trailer operators typically let their vehicles Also, another part is -- you know, my experience, the impact that the haul trucks have on air quality. So I think this is grossly underestimated, about destinations within a five to six hundred mile radius. It is anticipated that ceramic products will be shipped to truck emissions. Yet elsewhere in the document it says: So they're looking at one mile for the haul to Highway 49. the project site, which is along Idaho-Maryland Road out emissions from haul trucks as they travel in the area near It says: However, the model only looks at are based on a trip distance of one mile. emissions, on that section, it says the daily emissions on air quality. So that's one point. Also, on haul truck see any mention of impact of the mine employees' vehicles -- looking at the air quality section, I didn't Sunrise Lane in Grass Valley. MIKE SHEA: Oh, I'm sorry. Mike Shea, 11818 address, please. THE CHAIRMAN: Would you state your name and MIKE SHEA: On the Draft EIR -- --oOo-- 2 Public Comments - January 6, 2009 GOLD COUNTRY REPORTING 131 S. Auburn Street, Grass Valley, CA 95945 (800)482-9120 (530)272-4422 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 once the mining companies had left, left it as a ghost music and arts, and those are all things that had happened been revitalized with high tech companies and culture and the environment, the great schools. The community has (sic) I think many people live here for, for the beauty, We moved up to this area primarily for the areas mother. five years ago. I have two young daughters. I'm a on Park Avenue in Nevada City. And I moved up here about ELISA PARKER: My name is Elisa Parker. I live --oOo-- thank you. it's going to. And that's really all I have to say. So don't think it's going to work as smooth as the EIR claims trying to enter that roundabout and, you know, I just will. Those trucks are going to block visibility for cars trailers coming through there, because I don't think it whether it indeed would mitigate all these big tractorroundabout is fully functional, let's take a look at think that this ought to be looked at. Now, when the trips, and it just doesn't seem to make sense to me. So I the roundabout is going to mitigate all of these truck And on traffic, you know, they're saying that So again, I think that needs to be taken a look at. mention in the air quality section on the idling times. 3 Public Comments - January 6, 2009 GOLD COUNTRY REPORTING 131 S. Auburn Street, Grass Valley, CA 95945 (800)482-9120 (530)272-4422 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 been spending time creating sustainable, green, healthy money that we have put into this process we could have incorporate smart growth? All this energy and time and past to go towards the future or are we going to So, you know, are we going to look towards the those things that we want to bring back as well? was also founded on Chinese slavery and prostitution. Are built upon gold mining, but, as my friend also said, it the history that we have. We have -- this community was empathize with them because, of course, we need to value Many of the sentimentalists here -- and I 20 and on Highway 174, what will your legacy be? have an accident as we often do on Highway 49, on Highway something happen, should there be an error, should a truck for human error, what will your legacy be? Should knowing that there are toxic chemicals like cyanide left And the idea of for my kids to be on the road Nevada City being on the road. imagine what that would be like. That's almost all of Report, having 1,800 trucks on the road? I can't even What will your legacy be? Per the Environmental Impact to be as a planning commissioner here in Grass Valley. And my question is what do you want your legacy personal for all of us. town. It's a personal issue for me, and I think it's 4 Public Comments - January 6, 2009 GOLD COUNTRY REPORTING 131 S. Auburn Street, Grass Valley, CA 95945 (800)482-9120 (530)272-4422 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 course, well, they say they're going to clean up the I heard comments at the last meeting that, of mine abandoned the area and did not clean it up? they can't drink their water. Could it be because a gold children at Grizzly Hills School in North San Juan why company that has not done this before? We could ask the mined before. How can I put my trust and faith in a corporate corruption. Emgold is a company that has not generation, there is no corporate loyalty. I've only seen of corporate loyalty from generations prior. My understand for the sentimentalists that there is a sense You know, I don't know about you, but I be? and create a new legacy? What do you want your legacy to sustainable jobs and be the pioneers that we were built on into this or do we want to spend time creating healthy, decide. Are we going to put more time, energy and money So you have the power. You have the power to and energy into better jobs. at that, we could have certainly had -- put all that time information on there for you. And, you know, just looking look at the impacts of mining, there's all this fantastic new organization that's been collected (sic) to over 12 years. If you look at the reports on CLEAN, the jobs. This is basically creating about 100 permanent jobs 5 Public Comments - January 6, 2009 GOLD COUNTRY REPORTING 131 S. Auburn Street, Grass Valley, CA 95945 (800)482-9120 (530)272-4422 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 explosives every day being used as approximate usage on from wherever they're going. And then 4,000 pounds of of trucks. That's basically a string of trucks in a loop how that's going to be taken care of because that's a lot going to affect traffic and what route they will take and per minute 24 hours a day. Just wondering how that's 18. That's over 50 trucks an hour. That's basically one that the trips -- I had heard 1,250, I heard tonight 14, going to go and how that will be taken care of. I presume removed from the mine, and I was wondering where those are approximately eight million pounds of materials will be Just a couple of questions. It says that in Grass Valley, California. RICH BLAIR: I'm Rich Blair, 13041 Wood Rose Way --oOo-- and we can stop it right now. Thank you. so much for your time, and I think this will be stopped for you, and again, what will your legacy be? Thank you sustainable jobs. It's personal for me and it's personal can put more energy and time into smarter, healthier, more I know that we can do better. I know that we What will your legacy be? do that when I have not seen any of that happen prior? trust and faith do I have to believe that they're going to water, they say they're going to clean up this area. What 6 Public Comments - January 6, 2009 GOLD COUNTRY REPORTING 131 S. Auburn Street, Grass Valley, CA 95945 (800)482-9120 (530)272-4422 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 I understand that the people who prepared the area and in the over 150 years that it has been inhabited. ill effects from them in the 150-mile long Mother Lode child or animal has ever gotten sick, died or suffered any Park have said about these and other elements, no adult, Protection Agency, other federal agencies and the Empire and attack people, regardless of what the Environmental other mysterious heavy metals that leap out of the ground The words cyanide, arsenic, lead, mercury, and Idaho-Maryland Mining company. connection, financial or otherwise, with Emgold or the different countries. Lastly, I have absolutely no four states and have worked on 120 gold plats in 22 engineer. I have been a licensed registered engineer in engineering and an honorary degree as a metallurgical Science degree in both chemistry and metallurgical Metallurgical Society of America. I have a Master of Metallurgy and Exploration and president of the Mining and and I have served as president of the Society of Mining I have been in the mining industry for 55 years, I've been in the Grass Valley area for -- since 1984. ROBERT SHOEMAKER: My name is Robert Shoemaker. --oOo-- far they can be felt. Thank you. explosives, and I wonder how far they can be heard and how 7 Public Comments - January 6, 2009 GOLD COUNTRY REPORTING 131 S. Auburn Street, Grass Valley, CA 95945 (800)482-9120 (530)272-4422 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 entail removing 1,600 acre feet of water and then it turns out to empty or to dewater the mine it will perspective, if you do the arithmetic that's in the DEIR see in the DEIR dealing with water. And just to put it in What I want to address are deficiencies that I watershed. City. That's on the upper end of the Wolf Creek Willy Kollmeyer. I live at 12712 Morro Drive, Nevada WILLY KOLLMEYER: Good evening. My name is --oOo-- will be an asset to Grass Valley and Nevada County. and operate a safe and environmentally sound project that county and city laws and requirements in order to build my opinion, will far exceed all of the federal, state, working with no problems. I wish to state that Emgold, in South Africa gold mine where there are thousands of men I have been three miles down in the earth in a if the air they breathed is not completely satisfactory. entities that they operate under would certainly complain working today. And all those miners and the government there are hundreds or thousands of underground mines they came to that conclusion. I do know, however, that Since the mine is full of water it is difficult to see how could complain about, and that was the underground air. environmental report have found only one item that they 8 Public Comments - January 6, 2009 GOLD COUNTRY REPORTING 131 S. Auburn Street, Grass Valley, CA 95945 (800)482-9120 (530)272-4422 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 So basically we have a lot of people living up no data on that Weimar Fault. be either conduits or they can be barriers. But there is acts as a barrier, yet within the DEIR it says faults can Also, there's an implicit assumption that the Weimar Fault the DEIR that speaks to well monitoring in that area. damage. But there's basically not one piece of data in Road, has been assigned Very Low Risk area for well upper watershed of Wolf Creek, everything above Brunswick Then when you read the DEIR you'll see that the every year for the next 20 years. amount of water, enough water for half of Banner Mountain huge well down here that is sucking out a tremendous uphill of this mine. And basically we're talking about a half you still have about 1,200 parcels which are all parcels are at risk, but if you just chop that mountain in families up there. And I'm not saying that all 2,400 all of which have houses. So there's less than 2,400 Association confines, there are about 2,400 parcels, not Mountain, within the Banner Mountain Homeowners Now, to put that more in perspective, on Banner various places. Some places say four, some say five. for a family of four for about a year. You can read another 1,300 acre feet. An acre foot of water is enough thereafter, to keep the mine dry and operable, about 9 Public Comments - January 6, 2009 GOLD COUNTRY REPORTING 131 S. Auburn Street, Grass Valley, CA 95945 (800)482-9120 (530)272-4422 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 residents in and around the area of the old Idaho-Maryland a neighborhood association called BARC. BARC represents 14069 Diamond Court in Grass Valley. I'm the president of JIM OTTO: My name is Jim Otto, and I live at --oOo-- you. mitigations and measures are taken to protect us. Thank about it. So I hope you can see to it that proper pumping out and there's a lot of people very concerned up in the first year. But that's a lot of water we're show up years later; this is not necessarily going to show least the Wolf Creek watershed. Because this damage could you require the mine to do some monitoring of wells in at So we would ask that, as a bare minimum, that mitigations is really unacceptable. without any data, without any monitoring, without any think that to arbitrarily put us into a Very Low Risk area between the mine and the rest of the surroundings. So I that no one truly knows the hydrogeologic connection down another 3,000 feet. And the DEIR says repeatedly The mine down here is about what, 23, 24, plus it goes that the water flows continually, it is about 3,200 feet. a topog map, the upper end of Wolf Creek, our map shows viability of their groundwater wells. And if you look on on the mountain who feel very uncomfortable as to the 10 Public Comments - January 6, 2009 GOLD COUNTRY REPORTING 131 S. Auburn Street, Grass Valley, CA 95945 (800)482-9120 (530)272-4422 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 connect a permanent feeder line from the East Bennett within 14 days of an impacted well. The process to High and Moderate Risk wells will be connected to NID pipeline. The DEIR mitigation measure 4.7.3-b states that connect each High and Moderate Risk well owner to the NID on East Bennett Road, but the feeder lines that will The problems are not with the main NID pipeline problems begin. the East Bennett Road NID pipeline. And this is where the the impacted property will need to be quickly connected to the applicant starts dewatering and the well is impacted, starts dewatering -- thank you. That being the case, when dewatering. That being the case, when the applicant Bennett Road would be required prior to the start of installation and completion of an NID pipeline down East after speaking with Tom Last and Jeff Harvey that EIR is confusing and contradictory, it's our understanding Although some of the mitigation language in the owners. related to providing permanent NID water to impacted well I want to focus on the specific problems and issues Idaho-Maryland Mine and I have a High Risk well. Tonight On a personal note, I live directly over the and the well dewatering issue is an intense concern to us. Mine workings, and we're at ground zero for this project 11 Public Comments - January 6, 2009 GOLD COUNTRY REPORTING 131 S. Auburn Street, Grass Valley, CA 95945 (800)482-9120 (530)272-4422 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 and recorded for many of the High and Moderate Risk the big one -- deeded easements will need to be completed to install the permanent feeder lines; five -- and this is acceptable to NID to supervise and direct the contractor the applicant will need to hire an engineering company will need to hire a contractor to perform the work; four, NID will need to review the design; three, the applicant design the permanent feeder lines to NID standards; two, Phase I, the applicant must hire an engineer to operational: the NID pipeline down East Bennett Road is in place and applicant prior to dewatering. The following assumes that well thought-out plan needs to be put in place by the the property owners to NID is not a slam dunk, and that a be an expert in this area. My point is that connecting face-to-face meeting with NID staff. I don't profess to the NID pipeline. This information was obtained in a be completed before the feeder lines can be connected to The following is a list of actions that need to unreasonable. without a permanent water supply is unfair and that be reduced to seven days. Subject to two weeks complete. And by the way, BARC is going to be asking that process that will take much longer than 14 days to pipeline to the impacted property is a time-consuming 12 Public Comments - January 6, 2009 GOLD COUNTRY REPORTING 131 S. Auburn Street, Grass Valley, CA 95945 (800)482-9120 (530)272-4422 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 contain strong and thorough mitigation language that would Therefore, we ask the commission that the EIR their way through the courts. This is not acceptable. quote, temporary water supply while easement issues work the impacted well owners could be stuck long-term with a, challenges. If this issue is not adequately addressed, this could present significant and protracted legal some of the High and Moderate Risk parcels. In some cases Especially of concern is getting easements granted for items the feeder lines will need to be connected to NID. account the time necessary to complete all the required The point here is the DEIR does not take into NID main pipeline and then NID takes over the maintenance. phase, the feeder lines will need to be connected to the disinfected, tested again and flushed. In the third line needs to be constructed, inspected, tested, The second phase, the actual construction, the NID. cost of a one-year applicant warranty on the pipeline to to be funded and in place for construction costs, plus the action.); six, all financial assurances or bonding needs time-consuming and in some cases could require legal obtaining easements from property owners could be very voluntarily or via eminent domain. In either case, parcels. (Note: According to NID, these easements could be 13 Public Comments - January 6, 2009 GOLD COUNTRY REPORTING 131 S. Auburn Street, Grass Valley, CA 95945 (800)482-9120 (530)272-4422 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 mining to clean coal. There is no such thing. Mining is impacts. After reading the DEIR, I can only equate modern modern mining which will not create any significant We are being told that there is something called allowing mining in the middle of our community. emissions -- I cannot support anything other than not trucks, the inherent pollution and greenhouse gas dewatering, blasting, noise, dust, massive numbers of due to the significant impacts of even that scenario -- but moving processing to an outlying location. However, that I could recommend, like allowing extraction of rock I have tried to find a scenario for this project be forced on our community are immense. the magnitude of this project and the changes that would project and reading the DEIR. As described in the DEIR, spent a considerable amount of time thinking about this Bogart. I live on Banner Mountain in Nevada City. I have BOB BOGART: Good evening. My name is Bob --oOo-- time. review and oversight it deserves. Thank you for your of mine dewatering in order to give this project the mitigation measures need to be in place prior to the start well (sic) but outside the city limits. We feel these protect water supplies of those of us living next to the 14 Public Comments - January 6, 2009 GOLD COUNTRY REPORTING 131 S. Auburn Street, Grass Valley, CA 95945 (800)482-9120 (530)272-4422 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 or biomass power generation, we will have hundreds of opportunities, and using some of the land for solar farms in the R & D for alternative energy, other high tech Century mining project into attracting 21st Century jobs of the effort that is now being expended on this 19th Valley General Plan, if we, as a community, put a fraction Alternatively, if we follow the existing Grass There is no depression-proof magic to be found here. in 1936 16 percent of the community was doing mining. possibly be considered employed in mining in 2020, whereas Remember, at most, .4 percent of the community could with the permit in the likely case that Emgold sells it. in order to enrich Emgold and whoever actually winds up We cannot afford to wager our community's health governor, the Tennessee Valley Authority, and the EPA. Freddie Mac, the California legislature, the California the Securities and Exchange Commission, AIG, Fannie Mae, recently, you know how well this scenario has worked out: our best interests. If you have looked at the news understaffed government agencies who will all represent benevolent corporation and our trust in our overworked and We are told to put all of our trust into a middle of our community, exactly that. in different ways from 150 years ago perhaps, but, in the what it has always been, dirty, dangerous and polluting; 15 Public Comments - January 6, 2009 GOLD COUNTRY REPORTING 131 S. Auburn Street, Grass Valley, CA 95945 (800)482-9120 (530)272-4422 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 In the EIR, under the definitions of impact, Clark, 324 Vistamont Drive, Grass Valley. WILLIAM CLARK: Good evening. I'm William --oOo-- where it belongs, in the recycling bin. that label. I think it's past time this project goes not bring any other companies into this area once you get essentially be labeled as tech not friendly, and they will values. If even one tech company leaves this area we will of tax revenue and consequential further loss of home realistically, we would see a net loss of jobs, a net loss become so compromised they decide to go elsewhere. Thus, because, like the residents, the quality of life will have continue to do business either due to the blasting or will leave because the companies that are here now cannot residents that is likely to occur if it starts. The jobs the loss of high-paying jobs and the loss of high wealth An under-discussed concern about this project is to try. stimulate job creation and company creation. We just have am certain that we can put together numerous incentives to funds that are being made available for these projects. I community, and we can get help from state and federal environmentally responsible. We will be improving our local jobs that will be permanent, high-paying and 16 Public Comments - January 6, 2009 GOLD COUNTRY REPORTING 131 S. Auburn Street, Grass Valley, CA 95945 (800)482-9120 (530)272-4422 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 probably doesn't affect air quality as such. discuss this under aesthetics or something since it cloud more northward by the prevailing winds. Maybe going to form a plume, and they'll condense forming a building. The 1,300 degree Fahrenheit gases, they're flume gases from the 81-foot tall stacks in the ceramic should expand the discussion of impacts due to the exhaust In the appendix on air quality, I think the EIR Idaho-Maryland in operation. PM2.5 we're in worse shape already without even adding the standard. Doing so would indicate that for ozone PM10 and only. The EIR should reference the much stricter state monitored amounts, and it references the federal standard page 4.2-2 that lists the various standards for ozone, the On the air quality of the EIR there's a table on whatever that is. mitigation. CEQA talks about getting to a baseline level, definite indication of exactly what was left after the to be Less Than Significant lacked any quantitative or as I read it, very few -- the impacts that were mitigated the purposes of the EIR? With few exceptions in the EIR is what is less than significant? Who defines this for mitigated to a level Less Than Significant. The question Than Significant. Class II says: Significant, but CEQA definitions, Class III says: Adverse impact, Less 17 Public Comments - January 6, 2009 GOLD COUNTRY REPORTING 131 S. Auburn Street, Grass Valley, CA 95945 (800)482-9120 (530)272-4422 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 impacts of air quality, the roadways and traffic due to out of the area. I believe the EIR should quantify the supplementing the revenue by selling aggregate materials Also, there's mention of Idaho-Maryland even get a handle on the amount. There's nothing, there's nothing listed or discussed to applicant will bear costs of these as appropriate. measures that are going to be required. The City and the discussion of costs related to the 83 separate mitigation discussion of capital improvement projects. There's no is going to have to buy. No mention of that in the mention of a new special purchase fire truck that the City In the fiscal analysis in the appendix there's million dollars a year is considered not viable. no discussion listed, as to why a revenue stream of 40 to only daytime it's hard for me to believe, since there's million dollars a year average. By restricting operations $800 an ounce that's over 1.1 billion dollars or 80 we're standing on. Over a 15-year period of operation, at over 1.4 million ounces of gold underneath the ground It's estimated by a Union newspaper article that there's dismissed out of hand as being not economically viable. means daytime operations only. In the EIR this is there's an alternative called restricted operations, which One of the sections on project alternatives, 18 Public Comments - January 6, 2009 GOLD COUNTRY REPORTING 131 S. Auburn Street, Grass Valley, CA 95945 (800)482-9120 (530)272-4422 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 world. Unless you get your hands in there and get ahold called awareness. You can read all the books in the what powder is used. And it kind of gives you a thing is, I know what a bowl hole is, what lifter holes are, underground. I did drill a round. I know what a jackleg I am not classified as a miner, but I did go work for Seneca Mining Corporation. the Marine Corps as a naval aviator, came home, went to South (inaudible) another two years, did eight years in here, graduated from college, Sierra College, went to I graduated from high school up here, and raised 10368 Adams Avenue, Grass Valley. CARL BOLTON: My name is Carl Bolton. I live at --oOo-- (inaudible). Thank you. discussion and not just leave it as a footnote on City. I think the EIR should highlight this as a the Nevada County area. That's listed as an income to the said that 10 percent of the ceramic tiles would be sold in Idaho-Maryland offered by the applicant. Its estimate There's a line item on income from separate item in the EIR. people's windshields. At least identify that as a with the gravel bouncing on the roads and cracking the gravel trucks rumbling down Highway 49 and Highway 20 19 Public Comments - January 6, 2009 GOLD COUNTRY REPORTING 131 S. Auburn Street, Grass Valley, CA 95945 (800)482-9120 (530)272-4422 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 drying up is, go to the little town of Sutter Creek over should know, is drying up. And if you want to know what But this, this town of Grass Valley, as you all area. they've got trucks at a certain time, I will avoid the to let them make a living. I will take my time -- if I will bend. If people got to make a living, I will bend the ones that shut down the racing because of the noise. it's over by ten o'clock. I live with it. I'm not one of at the fairgrounds. I'm not up to that type of music, but and that, noise pollution and so forth. I hear the noise I'm really -- you know, I hear stories of this because of mining and logging. wonderful up here. We never had a recession in the '30s overloaded for unemployment requests. Our economy is not crashed, I think it was New York and Maryland, for being big look what's going on. Today in the news two computers is in such wonderful financial shape they'd better take a to knock the trucks off. If everybody thinks this county only one little area. Don't tell those people down there Lake and the Yuba City lines I counted 19 trucks. That's I was in Yuba City last week, and between Ellis Trucks, too much powder, it goes on and on. what's going on. We've got a big fear factor here going. of it, it makes no difference at all. You don't know 20 Public Comments - January 6, 2009 GOLD COUNTRY REPORTING 131 S. Auburn Street, Grass Valley, CA 95945 (800)482-9120 (530)272-4422 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 right now, a once in a lifetime. If you shut her down And I think you people have a golden opportunity deeper there wouldn't be any unemployment. this town and work. If this recession goes deeper and the guy at the grocery store. There's going to be jobs in you tell the barber that or the guy at the gas station, there's no money going to be in Grass Valley. Why don't we see more stores close up. I've heard stuff like, oh, prosper. I hope we don't get into a deeper recession and This town is built on mining. This town can still So I hear all these arguments and so forth. mess. They'll be shut down if they even try. even start. Not only that, they do not want to leave a 1849. You're not allowed. They're bonded before they and federal regulations, and so forth, this isn't 1950 or As far as mining and the air quality goes, with the state not in Silicon Valley. Now we're not talking cheap labor. here for one reason, cheap labor. That's why it's here, this high tech business is doing so wonderful. And it's And as far as legacy goes, I don't see where rights. (inaudible) rights, but also the people that work's right. I have fought for these rights. I fought for the this country. This is America. You know, we have a by Jackson. It's almost a ghost town. We need jobs in 21 Public Comments - January 6, 2009 GOLD COUNTRY REPORTING 131 S. Auburn Street, Grass Valley, CA 95945 (800)482-9120 (530)272-4422 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 going on right now, look at Lake Tahoe and the I think if you look and see what's actually your ear and close it and say whatever. You can make it a viable project, or you can just turn smart people, you're smart people. You can work together. unemployment rates here out of sight, work. And these are want to see that get any worse than it is. We have county. And it's pretty bad. It's pitiful. And I don't delivered Christmas baskets. I saw the need in this I'm past president of the local Lions Club. I whatever. What can you do for Nevada County? County can give you, or the State of California or for your country." Let's turn it. Ask not what Nevada not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do me me. One of our great presidents made a statement, "Ask standing here going I'm against this, I'm against that, me out and worked? Because a working man wouldn't be really aware what is going on? Have they ever really gone Awareness, awareness, awareness. Are they with what you've got. People got concerns. And, you know, it's up to you people. And I empathize as far as legacies, but we have a future ahead of us. brothels and all that stuff, I don't think it's necessary as far as legacies, I don't -- I'm not going to get into you'll never see it back again. So that's up to you. And 22 Public Comments - January 6, 2009 GOLD COUNTRY REPORTING 131 S. Auburn Street, Grass Valley, CA 95945 (800)482-9120 (530)272-4422 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 David Watkins (sic) of the Idaho-Maryland Mine Council and the Planning Commission of Grass Valley. mitigations has got to be an all-time record for the City action to render their effects less harmful. Eighty-four mitigations. Mitigations are problems that need specific Commission in the last 22 years. This project has 84 project to come before the Grass Valley Planning industrial tile plant. In other words, this is the worst the reopening of the Idaho-Maryland Mine and its huge the last 22 years. I've never seen a project as bad as My two kids and I have lived and farmed here for Lane in Penn Valley, California. downstream water user in Penn Valley, 14318 Pilot Peak commissioners. I'm Mike Pasner, a local family farmer, a MIKE PASNER: Good evening, planning --oOo-- time. work. And I empathize with you and I thank yous for your back into balance. Level it up. Give people a right to of balance right now. You people need to bring the scales needles and limbs they couldn't trim. This thing is out at their belongings gone, a whole life gone for pine ones that their houses are burnt down and they got to look about. The only people that really understand it is the environmentalists up there, what they were hollering 23 Public Comments - January 6, 2009 GOLD COUNTRY REPORTING 131 S. Auburn Street, Grass Valley, CA 95945 (800)482-9120 (530)272-4422 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 The Draft EIR expects 18 wells to go dry. Many traffic plan is really awful. where the trucks will actually get on the highway. This where students cross to get to the Safeway, and that's truck every six minutes will drive by the Hennessy School This is one of the busiest streets in Grass Valley. One They'll drive the frontage road past the new Holiday Inn. speed during the weave so they go back off of the freeway. freeway. They're too big and heavy and can't get up to they were getting on the freeway, but they won't enter the traffic circle daily. They'll follow the weave as though tailings or tile made of toxic rock will go around the new ridiculous. One hundred sixty semis loaded with toxic The truck traffic plan in the Draft EIR is this factory and mine will lower property values. can see many businesses and homes, and you understand why 24 hours a day. When you stand there looking around you (sic) smokestacks billowing superheated steam into the air Creek and Highway 49. They can visualize the six ten foot Immediately below this industrial site you'll see Wolf You look at the front doors of the Board of Realtors. Grass Valley. You can see the hospital right above you. site folks get a feeling that they are in the city of proposed mine site. I think this is wonderful. On this chooses to have his employees give guided tours of the 24 Public Comments - January 6, 2009 GOLD COUNTRY REPORTING 131 S. Auburn Street, Grass Valley, CA 95945 (800)482-9120 (530)272-4422 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 --oOo-- www.CLAIM.GrassValley.org. Thank you for your time. for CLAIM, Citizens Looking at the Impacts of Mining, more about this project or comment on the Draft EIR, look will you really approve this project? If you want to know mine? Planning commissioners and city council members, giant corporation into the city limits of Grass Valley to Mining or a giant Chinese mining corporation or another Will the City of Grass Valley welcome Newmont environmental records in the world. read. This giant corporation has one of the worst National Geographic magazine, which you should get and Corporation is mentioned repeatedly in this month's they can sell the project at any time. Newmont Mining Watkins (sic) has said that as a junior mining corporation mineral rights on three sides of this project. David Newmont Mining Corporation has approximately 240 acres of The mine has 139 acres of mineral rights. talking about. front yards. This is one of the 84 mitigations we're will be fed through long hoses and water trucks in their will not have permanent NID water for three years. They pumping for 20 years. NID says the 85 homes up on Banner to pump dry 72 miles of underground tunnels and continue suspect as many as 360 wells will go dry. The IMM hopes 25 Public Comments - January 6, 2009 GOLD COUNTRY REPORTING 131 S. Auburn Street, Grass Valley, CA 95945 (800)482-9120 (530)272-4422 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 our waterways -- they don't tell you there will be water to use, such as the pumped water is going to contaminate the EIR, but only use the parts of the statement they want Many who oppose this project make statements on was created later on. open, and they would have had to clean up the mess that there that they have today. That mine would have been Lava Cap, the taxpayers would not have the problem out If we'd of listened when they tried to open the Banner mine, we're going to contaminate the soils and everything. I've listened to all types of hogwash: move the Now is the time to look forward to some action. forward. We're in the stage of paralysis by analysis. done. I ask you to accept this Draft EIR and move opinion, brings that to Less Than Significant and has been environmental issues and means to mitigate them, in my the creation of this document showing all the The endless hours of input that has gone into that. a decision must be made. I'm sure you're going to do first also I'd like to say you can't please everyone, but to say first good evening, ladies and gentlemen. And I spent all my life around here. And I'd like is 14297 Wardens Court, Grass Valley. BOB WILDER: Well, I am Bob Wilder. My address 26 Public Comments - January 6, 2009 GOLD COUNTRY REPORTING 131 S. Auburn Street, Grass Valley, CA 95945 (800)482-9120 (530)272-4422 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 close to home and they're not going over into Nevada and right tonight that wish to the devil there was a mine here I'll bet you there's several miners in this room here And we talk about, well, there's no miners here. outside the industry. of those jobs that is created helps seven other jobs they probably wouldn't hire as many people. But every one they would hire more people. If it's not going real good, don't believe. If things were going real good, I'm sure you a thing that is for a fact. They really don't know I states how many jobs they surmise, but they're not telling And they talk about the number of jobs. The EIR And I'd like you to please look at those things. going to be enclosed. There will be very little noise. pollution. Also, when it comes to noise, everything is onto us and that is supposed to be reducing some of that done, but that is a requirement that our state has now put everything else because of it. I don't see how it can be So -- and that's to clean up the emissions and older than 2010. trucks by the year 2012 is supposed to have a motor no is going to have to have all truck traffic -- all large tell you that our governor has signed into law AB 32 that pollution will create all kinds of trouble. They don't treatment plants to treat that water -- and that the air 27 Public Comments - January 6, 2009 GOLD COUNTRY REPORTING 131 S. Auburn Street, Grass Valley, CA 95945 (800)482-9120 (530)272-4422 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 My comments are provided and offered to address considered, let alone wasting this much time and money. any one area, as a mine reopening would have would even be anything close to the environmental impact in any area, in business that wanted to come to this area that had for much, much longer. No other project, no other on for three and a half years and undoubtedly will go on It will divide the community, and has already been going to the commission because I know you have a hot potato. And before I start, I would offer my condolences from the entrance to the Brunswick site. and I live at 12176 East Bennett Road, a tenth of a mile BOB CLARK: Good evening. My name is Bob Clark --oOo-- again. Thank you. times when the mine was running. I hope it's opened she lived here all her life, and she says it was good except one that I know of, who lives in Yuba City. And are in favor of this project. They're all local people, names to the Planning Department yesterday of people who tax base. I turned in, and I hope you received it, 170 at that because it would give us some jobs and it's a good So anyway, I ask you to take a good close look somewhere. working or working on some tunnel job down along the coast 28 Public Comments - January 6, 2009 GOLD COUNTRY REPORTING 131 S. Auburn Street, Grass Valley, CA 95945 (800)482-9120 (530)272-4422 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 impacts in the mine reopening. These, as a result, will under- and over-estimating environmental and economic individuals over which it has no authority, and through exceeding its legal authority to impose change on those misrepresentation, errors of commission and omission, responsibilities to area residents through failed its legal, fiduciary, moral and ethical the company that developed the EIR, in my mind, will have individually, the employees or the president of IMM and individually, this commission and its members Grass Valley, the city council and its members Should the reopening issue pass, the City of appropriate: others' ability to pursue legal actions as they may be am making the following statement to protect both my and to be permitted to reopen there will be legal action. I I have absolute confidence that if the mine were Planning Commission at, or prior to, the public hearing." notice, or in written correspondence delivered to the hearings for the particular projects described in this issues you or someone else has raised at the public or in court, you may be limited to raising only those Planning Commission's action on appeal to the City Council announcement of this hearing: "If you challenge the the following statement provided in the invitation or the 29 Public Comments - January 6, 2009 GOLD COUNTRY REPORTING 131 S. Auburn Street, Grass Valley, CA 95945 (800)482-9120 (530)272-4422 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 and said hey, Caltrans, how many losses of life will that And to my knowledge, no one has even picked up the phone of the project, from a million to 15 million truck trips. depending on the numbers you want to choose over the life the City's financial liability that will result from, the loss of life, personal injury and property damage, and Failure to identify, disclose or even consider traffic, and general safety; the area in general in terms of air quality, noise, residents in the area who reside near the mine sites and Significantly impacting the quality of life of mitigation; concurrence and failure to provide long-term, acceptable dewatering of residential wells without the owners' Permitting actions that will result in the caused me to discount anything else he had to say as well; with all these negative environmental impacts opened, it mile from the mine, would go up in value after this mine of IMM tried to convince me that my property, a tenth of a property values in the area of the mine -- the president impact on the environment and the resulting negative Failure to identify and disclose or mitigate the following factors, but not limited to them: take on personal and group financial liability for the cause these organizations and individuals, in my mind, to 30 Public Comments - January 6, 2009 GOLD COUNTRY REPORTING 131 S. Auburn Street, Grass Valley, CA 95945 (800)482-9120 (530)272-4422 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 negative implications and those specifically that are -- feasibility report and the EIR, instead of showing more only best case illustrations, both in the economic I believe there's liability based on providing provides those residents any representations. limits over which the City does not have jurisdiction nor action that will impact residents outside of the city additional financial implications as a result of taking I believe that the City -- or that there will be of that. ability and there's been no document which has shown any to my knowledge, there's been no disclosure of financial business partner was capable of doing his end of it. And you would sit down and determine whether or not your going to take on a business venture, I would think that follow through on his end of it. If you personally were ability of the proposed partner in this operation to and money -- for anyone to determine the real financial spending the last three and half years, the time, effort financial liability and suit is the failure -- prior to Another area that I believe that there will be any business, just because it has the word "gold" in it. lives. It's not acceptable, and it's not acceptable in we'll have a ratio, this number of jobs equals this many result in? Because they can tell us, and perhaps then 31 Public Comments - January 6, 2009 GOLD COUNTRY REPORTING 131 S. Auburn Street, Grass Valley, CA 95945 (800)482-9120 (530)272-4422 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 as the community will be named; if my water well goes dry goes down, there will be lawsuits, and individuals as well principle. And I can promise that if my property value do. I've spent a lot of money on lawyers in the past on know what other people will do, I can guarantee what I'll While this list may not be inclusive and I don't BOB CLARK: I certainly will. Mr. Wilder -- I mean Mr. Clark. Sorry. THE CHAIRMAN: If you could wrap it up, offering any kind of mitigation in that regard. the huge consumption of that of the mine and not even the area increased costs in gas and electricity based to liability for imposing on the City -- on the residents of Finally, there, I believe, should be financial quality standards and which could not be mitigated. project was identified as one that would exceed air and well-being of citizens given that, at the onset, this There is liability based on damage to the health money. whatever, there's no way for the City to recover its exceeded in terms of impact, loss -- number of jobs or remedy provided should the results not be equal or opening the mine. There is no long-term monitoring or of the financial cost and financial benefit as a result of and because there has been no separation, as an example, 32 Public Comments - January 6, 2009 GOLD COUNTRY REPORTING 131 S. Auburn Street, Grass Valley, CA 95945 (800)482-9120 (530)272-4422 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 winds are not west in this area. So whatever the study be done. And correct me if I'm wrong, but the prevailing rate would be west of the site where the work is going to done is that they took air samples and what the exposure carcinogens. One of the ways it said that that study was air quality was an additional risk to cancer-causing be mitigated was air quality, and one of the items in the One of the items that the DEIR stated could not I live at 13030 Cedar Crest Lane in Grass Valley. MELVIN SHIMADA: Hi, my name is Melvin Shimada. --oOo-- own city ordinances. Thank you. further consideration of this will be in the face of our and picking up his load of rock? And I believe that and picking up his cup of coffee or a truck going through city. What is the difference between a car going through denied any drive-through business in the future in our open a drive-through, not only denied that, but they The City, as a result of someone -- Starbucks wanting to enforcement of ordinances that already exist in the city. and get us out of this terrible mess. It simply requires this group could take that could mitigate this whole thing There is, however, I believe, an action that thing. the same thing; if my quality of life goes down, the same 33 Public Comments - January 6, 2009 GOLD COUNTRY REPORTING 131 S. Auburn Street, Grass Valley, CA 95945 (800)482-9120 (530)272-4422 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 This project is way too big for this community. these other mine tailings anywhere in this county? ceramics on that site, why couldn't you do it on any of thing to me. I mean, if you were going to be able to make going to happen. It doesn't sound like a feasible type of This ceramics plant, we don't know if that's promises, hollow promises, just like 20 years. community before a few jobs. And many of those jobs are are going to put our health and our welfare and our endanger my life. To me, it's a question of whether we here, but I don't want to stay here if it's going to I live here. I like the air. I want to stay neighborhood. chance of getting cancer if you live anywhere in this and extrapolate them to 70 years, you have a very high completely erroneous. If you were to take their numbers realistically, this study on the cancer exposure is these cancer exposure studies were based on 70 years. So sky. It could be 20 years. It could be 70 years. And years. Well, we all know that the 20 years is pie in the exposure because the planned life of this mine is 20 did their calculations, they based it on a 20-year If you were to do the calculations the way they misleading. was that they did is just completely erroneous and 34 Public Comments - January 6, 2009 GOLD COUNTRY REPORTING 131 S. Auburn Street, Grass Valley, CA 95945 (800)482-9120 (530)272-4422 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 HEIDI HALL: Good evening. I'm Heidi Hall. I --oOo-- live in as it has been. Thank you. make a lot of noise. It will not be as nice a place to property values down. It will pollute the air. It will recognize and they won't move here. It will drive the here, but that will create a change that other people will community to live in. That's why I moved here, I love it ambience of the community. This community is a nice It's going to be so big it will change the whole going to be able to control it once it's here. this is like an elephant in a china shop. You're just not get us to buy off on it, and I'm not going to. You know, here to stay. Twenty years is just their way of trying to able to get it out. We all know that once it's here it's Once that mine goes in, we're not going to be able to change that. That is substantial pollution, and we're not going to be converters they put on or how they change the diesel fuel. pollution from that. It don't matter how many catalytic trips, the noise from that being mitigated, the air can mitigate the noise, but I don't see, 1,400 truck the quality of life, the noise. You know, they say they day. That's one a minute. Imagine what that will do to We're talking fourteen or eighteen hundred truck trips a 35 Public Comments - January 6, 2009 GOLD COUNTRY REPORTING 131 S. Auburn Street, Grass Valley, CA 95945 (800)482-9120 (530)272-4422 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 films that are going to be shown actually document the week at the film festival you can see how many of the 100 dividing communities. If you have any doubt of this, next This is a tired old story. They also come in and end up This is across the board. This is not new. modern methods. environmental impacts, and they all talk about using revenue. They minimize or even lie about the They come in and they promise jobs and they promise tax industrial business such as coal, copper or gold mining. rural city or a county and proposes to run a dirty entity, often foreign-owned like Emgold, comes into a this entire country for the last several decades. A big been played out not dozens, but hundreds of times across this in this country. This is a tired old story. It's of the history -- aware of your history in projects like make sure that you and the Planning Commission are aware As an environmental professional, I'm here to will fit more with this new greener era we're coming into. putting all this effort into good, sustainable jobs that have never even been given the green light, instead of on having to fight against a business proposal that should having to spend this much time, money and emotional energy I am deeply disappointed this community is live on Heigen Court in Grass Valley. 36 Public Comments - January 6, 2009 GOLD COUNTRY REPORTING 131 S. Auburn Street, Grass Valley, CA 95945 (800)482-9120 (530)272-4422 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 And I wonder how did we get to be such couch potatoes in I want to suggest that there is another way. reacting to whatever dirty jobs are being offered to us. and monitoring this mine. We need to say no to just how much quality this corporation will bring to running poor DEIR, which, to my mind, is a very telling sign of need to say no. We need to say no to an embarrassingly expensive and tiring process which benefits no one. We and I don't want us to be fools marching into a long, promise of jobs. I repeat that this is not a new play, unsophisticated, uninformed and easily bought by the thing, our ignorance. They count on rural areas to be Be clear that these corporations count on one long and ugly history of this in this country. If you know anything about corporate rights, there's a fails, they will go to court and claim corporate rights. makers and they start expensive ad campaigns. If all else beginning to form then they start to bully local decision- First the company plays nice, but if they see opposition only in act one, and we're all playing our expected roles. This is a tired old script and we're all here history. numerous websites, articles, books that document this experience a project like this one. I can also send you devastation of communities across this country who had to 37 Public Comments - January 6, 2009 GOLD COUNTRY REPORTING 131 S. Auburn Street, Grass Valley, CA 95945 (800)482-9120 (530)272-4422 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 the rural people that Emgold is counting on us to be, So I want to end with three points. Don't be down before us and not learn our lessons from them. down the same old road that hundreds of people have gone something new and different. It would be foolish to go forefront, good clean jobs. It's not rocket science to do beginning of a new green revolution which has jobs at the In case you guys haven't noticed, we're at the community by a project like this. way to bring together a community rather than divide a difficult, but it can be incredibly successful and a great Again, this has been done in other communities. It's up with incentives to bring them here and take action? we research who's got them to offer, and why don't we come decide what type of jobs we want and how many? Why don't get together and determine our own future? Why don't we that are interested in creating jobs here? Why don't we two chambers of commerce, the ERC and other small entities Why don't we coordinate two cities, one county, jobs. reactive and get out in front of the issue of the need for all rocket science, but it requires that we stop being with our own solutions for our job needs? This is not at whatever dirty jobs are offered to us instead of coming up this community that we have to sit here and react to 38 Public Comments - January 6, 2009 GOLD COUNTRY REPORTING 131 S. Auburn Street, Grass Valley, CA 95945 (800)482-9120 (530)272-4422 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 This statement doesn't take into account all the connect the affected well owner's home to the NID system. the High to Moderate Risk well areas, the applicant shall 14 days of an identification of dewatering impact within Mitigation measure 4.7-3b states that: Within of those. mitigation measures and make a brief comment on each one impacted wells. I would like to briefly read those three three actually deal with the restoration of the water to are only five mitigation measures. Of those five, only measures dealing with groundwater impact on wells, there In the DEIR section that lists mitigation groundwater impacts on domestic wells. tonight I'll address only the DEIR mitigation measures for and has been identified as one of the High Risk wells. So mine workings. My well is on the well monitoring program My home and well are located directly above the Grass Valley. is Gary Pierazzi, and I live at 13997 Emerald Court in GARY PIERAZZI: Hello, commissioners. My name --oOo-- well-paying, sustainable jobs. Thank you. all be our own deciders and creators of excellent, clean, deceptive mine proposal. And do get active in helping us unsophisticated. Just say no to this ridiculous and 39 Public Comments - January 6, 2009 GOLD COUNTRY REPORTING 131 S. Auburn Street, Grass Valley, CA 95945 (800)482-9120 (530)272-4422 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 covered to be hooked up to a permanent water source if Well, this makes it sound like everyone is to installation of a permanent water source. temporary water source to the affected well owners prior wells, Idaho-Maryland Mine Corporation shall provide a If dewatering impact occurs at domestic water supply The third mitigation measure, 4.7-3d, states: no plans in place to deal with a situation like this. so-called expected area of impact? In this DEIR there are go dry. What happens if wells start going dry outside the mitigation for those people if their wells are impacted or also contradicts -- excuse me. There's no mention of the High and Moderate Risk Well areas from protection. It Okay. This statement excludes anyone outside supply of water. shall ensure that the property is provided with an NID part of the groundwater monitoring program, the applicant a High To Moderate Risk well but that is not currently current operable domestic water supply which is considered states: In the event that dewatering impacts occur at a The second mitigation measure is 4.7-3c. And it being set in place. happen in 14 days without a plan and time line already Mr. Otto pointed out previously. This cannot feasibly actions that need to be completed for this mitigation as 40 Public Comments - January 6, 2009 GOLD COUNTRY REPORTING 131 S. Auburn Street, Grass Valley, CA 95945 (800)482-9120 (530)272-4422 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 I differed with, quite a few. Going through it, I thought there was a lot of places that a two-inch document. I thought that was a little much. Print & Copy to pick it up and I was surprised when I saw I learned that the EIR was out, and I went up to at 437 French Avenue, Grass Valley. JACK CLARK: My name is Jack Clark, and I live --oOo-- (Recess taken.) their wells. Thank you. to provide protection to homeowners against impacts to have the DEIR well mitigation measures rewritten in order and they're inadequate. So I'm urging the commission to general and don't describe how they are to be implemented, contradictory. There are simplistic statements that are not well thought out. It's incomplete and it's DEIR regarding restoring water to impacted well owners is owners. My point is that the mitigation measures in this tables that address restoration of water to impacted well the only listed mitigation measures in the DEIR mitigation As you can see, I am concerned those three are table to implement this particular mitigation in the DEIR. wells being covered. And there are no plans or a time measure that only includes the High and Moderate Risk impacted. It also contradicts the previous mitigation 41 Public Comments - January 6, 2009 GOLD COUNTRY REPORTING 131 S. Auburn Street, Grass Valley, CA 95945 (800)482-9120 (530)272-4422 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 small blast, is what you get. the next hole with seconds apart. So it's essentially one blast one hole, the next hole, then the next hole, then you don't blast entirely the whole round at a time. You blasting on the surface. Now, you have to remember that Now, there's other times that they talked about that I ever did. feel any vibrations at all, or at least I can't remember where it's a safe location from the blasting. You didn't You could, you could be on the station or you could be motion that it makes. We didn't feel anything down there. before and after the war. And they talked about the I was all through the mines at the time, both war the same way. many, many miners blasting at the same time. After the is so dense that it doesn't go through it. There was didn't hear a blast like you do on the surface. The rock in, of course. Now, all you heard was a thump. You doing the blasting would be in an area that was safe to be I was there at the time. And all the miners that were underground, there was a lot of blasting on every level. picture back in 1941 when we had a thousand men working would cause a lot of noise and all. Now, if you'll blasting underground. Some people have thought that this I wanted to point out in the EIR it mentions the 42 Public Comments - January 6, 2009 GOLD COUNTRY REPORTING 131 S. Auburn Street, Grass Valley, CA 95945 (800)482-9120 (530)272-4422 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 significant adverse effect on air quality that cannot be The Draft EIR finds that there will be a My address is 446 Glenwood Road in Grass Valley. PAT HENDERSON: Hello, my name is Pat Henderson. --oOo-- Thank you. of the places, or the entities that we had to abide by. Everything complied with the rules and regulations of all magazine, and then they would be taken out as needed. periodically. They would go to the Class I explosive any problems. We had truckloads of explosives coming in them. All the time I was there, in 13 years, we never had listed in the EIR. We stored them, used them and handled the cyanide plant, the same identical chemicals that are chemicals used were going to present a problem. We used, people thinking that the amount of explosives used, the Now, another thing that was brought up about the next door. You figure that out. blasting to put in the parking lot. The hospital is right area of that hill, solid rock. They did an awful lot of Building 4 at the hospital they leveled off that whole top it at the hospital. Now, to point out, when they built blasting at the Idaho-Maryland site. They will not feel targets as to having problems. No problems at all with The hospital was supposed to be one of the 43 Public Comments - January 6, 2009 GOLD COUNTRY REPORTING 131 S. Auburn Street, Grass Valley, CA 95945 (800)482-9120 (530)272-4422 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 you. gold. Quality of life is more precious than gold. Thank those words are: Quality of life is more precious than because you've had a lot of information to digest. And And I leave you with these very important words pollution to Grass Valley if we have a mine here? how can we complain to Sacramento about them bringing air will keep people and businesses from moving here. Also, of the area, and how the increased degradation of our air impact in terms of people and businesses who will move out Furthermore, the EIR should address the economic deaths and added health costs. air quality will mean to the area in terms of premature updated and quantify what the increased deterioration in was being prepared, the EIR is incomplete and should be information, which was not available while the Draft EIR Twenty-eight billion dollars a year. Given this or other health problems is 28 billion dollars a year. health in infants, children, and adults at risk due to age cost to the State in premature deaths and deteriorating California is 3,000 additional deaths each year; 2. The result of nonattainment of air quality standards in California State University Fullerton finds that: 1. The impacts of an increase in degraded air. A study done by mitigated. However, the report does not detail the health 44 Public Comments - January 6, 2009 GOLD COUNTRY REPORTING 131 S. Auburn Street, Grass Valley, CA 95945 (800)482-9120 (530)272-4422 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 I have three issues to point out briefly Mountain. Hall, and I live at 12830 Quaker Hill Cross Road on Banner HELENE HALL: Good evening. My name is Helene --oOo-- cause an ounce of problems. So thank you. air quality things that they have on the trucks now won't themselves off after two minutes, a truck idling. And the The trucks, you don't idle them anymore. They shut trucks idling, I heard it talked about how much they idle. adequately without any health problems. As far as the So I know that the transportation can be handled they'll wish there was a mine working here. and when half of the stores are closed in Grass Valley Grass Valley economics are going to get 100 times worse, take care of the trucking that they're going to do. And measures that they have for the roads is very adequate to trucks, we still got along fine then, and the mitigating within one mile of the Idaho-Maryland Mine. And the involved with trucks. Years ago there was four sawmills trucks, I've been doing that for now 70 years just about, And I want to address the traffic. As far as live at 11090 Northview Drive in Nevada City. LOWELL ROBINSON: My name is Lowell Robinson. I --oOo-- 45 Public Comments - January 6, 2009 GOLD COUNTRY REPORTING 131 S. Auburn Street, Grass Valley, CA 95945 (800)482-9120 (530)272-4422 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 and what we have here in our county. The Draft EIR does not address the impact on the evening evenings, our brilliant stargazing, for 200 to 400 jobs. sky. Please don't take our beautiful Nevada County quiet treasures of our rural quality of life here is the night on our night sky. One of the most beautiful and priceless adequately address the impacts of air quality cumulative Third, the mine -- the Draft EIR does not am requesting a study and an evaluation of that. mining operations of daytime noise and nighttime noise. I the mining noise be complete with legitimate samples of evaluate this impact. I would like to request a study of and I want to see an adequate noise study performed to 24/7. At night the noise travels farther and is louder, nighttime operations of the mine, which will be running not adequately consider the impact of noise created by the Secondly, the Idaho-Maryland Mine Draft EIR does worse. lights in their parking lot? This is going to be much You remember the problem generated by Weaver Auto with the have huge light standards throughout the project area. created by the mine operating 24 hours. The mine will thing I wanted to mention is the impact of light pollution Draft EIR in regards to its 24-hour operation. The first regarding the impact of the mine and the inadequacy of 46 Public Comments - January 6, 2009 GOLD COUNTRY REPORTING 131 S. Auburn Street, Grass Valley, CA 95945 (800)482-9120 (530)272-4422 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 our community. in our stores. Tourism is a major economic engine within facilities, dine in our restaurants, buy gas from us, shop These visitors come to our community, stay in our lodging further enhance Grass Valley as a tourist destination. The reopening of the Idaho-Maryland Mine would certainly a destination for many visiting our area. draw and a tremendous asset for our community and all, seeing a gold mine. The Empire Mine is a tremendous gold mining, gold panning, where to buy gold, and most of information on the history of our community, history of well as many from abroad. Often these folks want 8,000 visitors a year from all over the United States, as Downtown Grass Valley at 248 Mill Street, we see over At the Chamber, which is located in Historic Valley. Commerce, and I live at 891 Morgan Ranch Drive in Grass Mueller with the Grass Valley/Nevada County Chamber of MARY ANN MUELLER: Good evening. I am Mary Ann --oOo-- and the lighting, that will stay there. Thank you. able to get it back. With the air quality, the pollution going to immensely impact that. We are not going to be And do not forget what we have at night. The mine is We are all here. We love this area immensely. 47 Public Comments - January 6, 2009 GOLD COUNTRY REPORTING 131 S. Auburn Street, Grass Valley, CA 95945 (800)482-9120 (530)272-4422 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 I breathed the air. I'm still here. And, really, we need before NID. I walked in the creeks at the Memorial Park. I drank all the water here when I was growing up have as much problems. today it would be more modernized and I don't think we'd the mines in those days were working under different ways, small compared to today. But, if you stop and think that who lived here. Our population at that time, yes, it was and they were really a great support to all of the people a lot of changes. I grew up when the mines were going, and yet I've lived here all my life, 73 years. I've seen honestly think that I can't say that I know 12 people here I have been looking around tonight, and I is 14297 Wardens Court, Grass Valley. WARDEN WILDER: I'm Warden Wilder. My address --oOo-- forward. economic viability of our community. Let the process move opportunity to bring in jobs and greatly enhance the us who love and live in this community. We have an provide the necessary mitigation and protection for all of for Emgold and the Idaho-Maryland Mine will certainly agencies. I'm confident that the process that is in place with processes put in place by federal, state and local The Idaho-Maryland Mine and Emgold must comply 48 Public Comments - January 6, 2009 GOLD COUNTRY REPORTING 131 S. Auburn Street, Grass Valley, CA 95945 (800)482-9120 (530)272-4422 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 you do not protect the interests of the people of Grass it's not. And you are technically subject to lawsuits if it is not so. If you look at the tax base, the benefits, I think the evidence is very clear on the Draft EIR that at the minimum, revenue neutral or revenue positive. And have a fiduciary responsibility to make sure that this is, Secondarily, you have a, as the lead agency, the impacts to the other jurisdictions in the area. And so I think it's necessary for the Draft EIR to address have a serious impact on all the people of the region. road maintenance, and that number of trucks is going to impact the people of the region. We pay taxes for the the county roads and also on the state highway, which also for the EIR, but the -- it seems to also have an impact on And I understand that you are the lead agency EIR is inadequate. using Highway 49. And in that regard I think the Draft they're going to be using 174, whether they're going to be does not describe where those trucks are going, whether adequate at all in addressing the full impact of it. It addresses the truck traffic, to me, does not appear to be MARK CALHOUN: The Draft EIR, the way it --oOo-- older people jobs. We really need it bad. this mine to open up again and give our young people and 49 Public Comments - January 6, 2009 GOLD COUNTRY REPORTING 131 S. Auburn Street, Grass Valley, CA 95945 (800)482-9120 (530)272-4422 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 mention in their report about a discharge at 2,700 gallons minute. Their report was based on this given. It has no dewatering is proposed to occur at 1,200 gallons per provided the DEIR analysis on water quality, mine water quality report by Walker and Associates, who For example, on page 45 of the hydrology and inconsistencies and inaccuracies. submitted throughout this process and the DEIR is full of answers to the many questions that I have previously for the DEIR," but I have not been able to sift out the public workshops were answered with, "I don't know, wait applicant Emgold Corporation. Questions raised at early analysis was largely based on information provided by the It is noted many times in the DEIR that the Valley. |
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